Vikisõnastik:Üldine arutelu/Arhiiv 3
Call for project ideas: funding is available for community experiments
muudaI apologize if this message is not in your language. Please help translate it.
Do you have an idea for a project that could improve your community? Individual Engagement Grants from the Wikimedia Foundation help support individuals and small teams to organize experiments for 6 months. You can get funding to try out your idea for online community organizing, outreach, tool-building, or research to help make Vikisõnastik better. In March, we’re looking for new project proposals.
Examples of past Individual Engagement Grant projects:
- Organizing social media for Chinese Wikipedia ($350 for materials)
- Improving gadgets for Visual Editor ($4500 for developers)
- Coordinating access to reliable sources for Wikipedians ($7500 for project management, consultants and materials)
- Building community and strategy for Wikisource (€10000 for organizing and travel)
Proposals are due by 31 March 2014. There are a number of ways to get involved!
Hope to have your participation,
--Siko Bouterse, Head of Individual Engagement Grants, Wikimedia Foundation 28. veebruar 2014, kell 21:44 (EET)
Proposed optional changes to Terms of Use amendment
muudaPronunciation Recording
muudaDear Wiktionary community!
- About me
- My name is Rainer Rillke, and I have been volunteering at Wikimedia Commons for 3 years now, gathering experience around media files. I've been always interested in how things work and how one could improve them.
- The idea
- One idea that appeared last Summer was allowing the recording of small chunks of speech, uploading that to Wikimedia Commons in the background and including this into a Wiktionary entry without having the hassle doing everything by hand or installing additional software. That idea led to the foundation of MediaWiki extension PronunciationRecording during the Google Summer of Code. However, this was not completed; instead development is stale for over 5 months now.
- My proposal
- To make this going to work, so Wiktionary has an immediate benefit of this feature, I would like to provide the work done so far as a gadget and add some more work in regard to usability. You can see my plan at m:Grants:IEG/Finish Pronunciation Recording. And more importantly, you can give me a hand, if you are interested by writing your comments.
Thanks and kind regards --Rillke (arutelu) 7. aprill 2014, kell 20:25 (EEST)
This message was delivered based on commons:User:Rillke/gmd/prg. Translation fetched from: commons:User:Rillke/prg/en -- Rillke(q?) 17:42, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
Using only UploadWizard for uploads
muudaHello! It was noted that on this wiki you have less than 10 local files. Presumably, you therefore don't have interest nor energies to have hundreds templates with the now required HTML, even less a local EDP. However, this means that users here will experience a mostly broken and/or illegal uploading. I propose to
- have local upload restricted to the "Administraatorid" group (for emergency uploads) and
- the sidebar point to commons:Special:UploadWizard,
so that you can avoid local maintenance and all users can have a functioning, easy upload interface in their own language. All registered users can upload on Commons and existing files will not be affected.
I'll get this done in one week from now.
- If you disagree with the proposal, just remove your wiki from the list.
- To make the UploadWizard even better, please tell your experience and ideas on commons:Commons:Upload Wizard feedback.
Media Viewer
muuda
Greetings, my apologies for writing in English.
I wanted to let you know that Media Viewer will be released to this wiki in the coming weeks. Media Viewer allows readers of Wikimedia projects to have an enhanced view of files without having to visit the file page, but with more detail than a thumbnail. You can try Media Viewer out now by turning it on in your Beta Features. If you do not enjoy Media Viewer or if it interferes with your work after it is turned on you will be able to disable Media Viewer as well in your preferences. I invite you to share what you think about Media Viewer and how it can be made better in the future.
Thank you for your time. - Keegan (WMF) 24. mai 2014, kell 00:29 (EEST)
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Media Viewer is now live on this wiki
muuda
Greetings— and sorry for writing in English, please translate if it will help your community,
The Wikimedia Foundation's Multimedia team is happy to announce that Media Viewer was just released on this site today.
Media Viewer displays images in larger size when you click on their thumbnails, to provide a better viewing experience. Users can now view images faster and more clearly, without having to jump to separate pages — and its user interface is more intuitive, offering easy access to full-resolution images and information, with links to the file repository for editing. The tool has been tested extensively across all Wikimedia wikis over the past six months as a Beta Feature and has been released to the largest Wikipedias, all language Wikisources, and the English Wikivoyage already.
If you do not like this feature, you can easily turn it off by clicking on "Disable Media Viewer" at the bottom of the screen, pulling up the information panel (or in your your preferences) whether you have an account or not. Learn more in this Media Viewer Help page.
Please let us know if you have any questions or comments about Media Viewer. You are invited to share your feedback in this discussion on MediaWiki.org in any language, to help improve this feature. You are also welcome to take this quick survey in English, en français, o español.
We hope you enjoy Media Viewer. Many thanks to all the community members who helped make it possible. - Fabrice Florin (WMF) (talk) 20. juuni 2014, kell 00:54 (EEST)
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Järjestus kategooriates
muudaOn kolm võimalust, kuidas viki kõigis kategooriates saaks sõnu vaikimisi järjestada:
- nagu praegu; diakriitikutega tähed kategoorias pärast muid ladina tähti ja iga märk eraldi alaosas
- diakriitikuga tähed järjestatakse nii nagu oleksid ilma diakriitikuta (ka näiteks diakriitikuga kreeka tähed), mis näiteks prantsuse keele kategoorias on mõistlik, eesti keele omas mitte; mõne mitteladina kirja kasutava keele sõnad peaks olema õigemini järjestatud, näiteks tai sõnad; vt keelte indekseid poola vikis, kus on nii
- eesti tähestiku tähed on eesti keele kategooriates õigesti järjestatud, mujal mitte; muud diakriitikuga tähed järjestatakse nagu nad oleksid ilma diakriitikuta
Kas tahate praegust sätet muuta? Ükski praegu võimalikest variantidest pole muidugi kõigi keelte jaoks ideaalne. Pikne 22. juuli 2014, kell 17:29 (EEST)
- Kas siis praegu eesti sõnad ei ole automaatselt õigesti järjestatud? Siis võiks seda küll muuta. Andres (arutelu) 24. juuli 2014, kell 21:47 (EEST)
- Praegu on nii. Kui teha kolmandat moodi, siis oleks samas näiteks ka teiste keelte z-tähega algavad sõnad vastavates kategooriates s-i ja t vahel. Või võib eesti keele järjestust siiski siin eelistada? Pikne 25. juuli 2014, kell 00:31 (EEST)
- Ma arvan, et parem on siiski, kui eesti keeles õigesti on. Teiste keelte puhul saab järjestust osalt ka käsitsi sättida. Andres (arutelu) 27. juuli 2014, kell 21:55 (EEST)
- Hästi, kui vastu polda, palun ka siin nii teha. Pikne 6. august 2014, kell 12:58 (EEST)
- Ma arvan, et parem on siiski, kui eesti keeles õigesti on. Teiste keelte puhul saab järjestust osalt ka käsitsi sättida. Andres (arutelu) 27. juuli 2014, kell 21:55 (EEST)
- Praegu on nii. Kui teha kolmandat moodi, siis oleks samas näiteks ka teiste keelte z-tähega algavad sõnad vastavates kategooriates s-i ja t vahel. Või võib eesti keele järjestust siiski siin eelistada? Pikne 25. juuli 2014, kell 00:31 (EEST)
IMPORTANT: Admin activity review
muudaHello. A new policy regarding the removal of "advanced rights" (administrator, bureaucrat, etc) was recently adopted by global community consensus (your community received a notice about the discussion). According to this policy, the stewards are reviewing administrators' activity on smaller wikis. To the best of our knowledge, your wiki does not have a formal process for removing "advanced rights" from inactive accounts. This means that the stewards will take care of this according to the new admin activity review here.
We have determined that the following users meet the inactivity criteria (no edits and no log actions for more than 2 years):
- Rauno (administrator)
These users will receive a notification soon, asking them to start a community discussion if they want to retain some or all of their rights. If the users do not respond, then their advanced rights will be removed by the stewards.
However, if you as a community would like to create your own activity review process superseding the global one, want to make another decision about these inactive rights holders, or already have a policy that we missed, then please notify the stewards on Meta-Wiki so that we know not to proceed with the rights review on your wiki. Thanks, Rschen7754 17. august 2014, kell 07:00 (EEST)
Letter petitioning WMF to reverse recent decisions
muudaThe Wikimedia Foundation recently created a new feature, "superprotect" status. The purpose is to prevent pages from being edited by elected administrators -- but permitting WMF staff to edit them. It has been put to use in only one case: to protect the deployment of the Media Viewer software on German Wikipedia, in defiance of a clear decision of that community to disable the feature by default, unless users decide to enable it.
If you oppose these actions, please add your name to this letter. If you know non-Wikimedians who support our vision for the free sharing of knowledge, and would like to add their names to the list, please ask them to sign an identical version of the letter on change.org.
Process ideas for software development
muuda’’My apologies for writing in English.’’
Hello,
I am notifying you that a brainstorming session has been started on Meta to help the Wikimedia Foundation increase and better affect community participation in software development across all wiki projects. Basically, how can you be more involved in helping to create features on Wikimedia projects? We are inviting all interested users to voice their ideas on how communities can be more involved and informed in the product development process at the Wikimedia Foundation. It would be very appreciated if you could translate this message to help inform your local communities as well.
I and the rest of my team welcome you to participate. We hope to see you on Meta.
Kind regards, -- Rdicerb (WMF) talk 22. august 2014, kell 01:15 (EEST)
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Grants to improve your project
muuda- Apologies for English. Please help translate this message.
Greetings! The Individual Engagement Grants program is accepting proposals for funding new experiments from September 1st to 30th. Your idea could improve Wikimedia projects with a new tool or gadget, a better process to support community-building on your wiki, research on an important issue, or something else we haven't thought of yet. Whether you need $200 or $30,000 USD, Individual Engagement Grants can cover your own project development time in addition to hiring others to help you.
- Submit your proposal
- Get help: In IdeaLab or an upcoming Hangout session MediaWiki message delivery (arutelu) 2. september 2014, kell 19:52 (EEST)
Meta RfCs on two new global groups
muudaThere are currently requests for comment open on meta to create two new global groups. The first is a group for members of the OTRS permissions queue, which would grant them autopatrolled rights on all wikis except those who opt-out. That proposal can be found at m:Requests for comment/Creation of a global OTRS-permissions user group. The second is a group for Wikimedia Commons admins and OTRS agents to view deleted file pages through the 'viewdeletedfile' right on all wikis except those who opt-out. The second proposal can be found at m:Requests for comment/Global file deletion review.
We would like to hear what you think on both proposals. Both are in English; if you wanted to translate them into your native language that would also be appreciated.
It is possible for individual projects to opt-out, so that users in those groups do not have any additional rights on those projects. To do this please start a local discussion, and if there is consensus you can request to opt-out of either or both at m:Stewards' noticeboard.
Thanks and regards, Ajraddatz (talk) 26. oktoober 2014, kell 20:04 (EET)Global AbuseFilter
muudaAbuseFilter is a MediaWiki extension used to detect likely abusive behavior patterns, like pattern vandalism and spam. In 2013, Global AbuseFilters were enabled on a limited set of wikis including Meta-Wiki, MediaWiki.org, Wikispecies and (in early 2014) all the "small wikis". Recently, global abuse filters were enabled on "medium sized wikis" as well. These filters are currently managed by stewards on Meta-Wiki and have shown to be very effective in preventing mass spam attacks across Wikimedia projects. However, there is currently no policy on how the global AbuseFilters will be managed although there are proposals. There is an ongoing request for comment on policy governing the use of the global AbuseFilters. In the meantime, specific wikis can opt out of using the global AbuseFilter. These wikis can simply add a request to this list on Meta-Wiki. More details can be found on this page at Meta-Wiki. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on m:Talk:Global AbuseFilter.
Thanks,
PiRSquared17, Glaisher— 14. november 2014, kell 19:34 (EET)
Tõlgete vormistamine
muudaTeen ettepaneku, et muudame tõlkenimistute vormistamist, sest praegune lahendus (pikk rida tõlkeid pärast "sünonüümide" kategooriat) on inetu ja ebamugav kasutada. Pigem paneks tõlked artikli alaossa nii, nagu see valdavalt muukeelsetest vikisõnastikes on. Inglisekeelse vikisõnastiku põhjal tegin sellise templaadi: Tõlke templaat ning minu kasutajalehel on hetkel uue vormistuse näidis sissekandest "aabits" Kasutaja:NKuusik. Algupärane inglisekeelne templaat näeb välja midagi sellist: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Template:trans-top, millest põhimõtteliselt võtsin "trans-top", "trans-mid" ja "trans-bottom" käskluse. Ma ei tea, kuidas see peaks käima, aga põhimõtteliselt peaks sama asja ka eestikeelsete käsklustega saada väljendada. Kas see mängib mingit rolli, kui meil on inglisekeelse viki vormistuselemendid? Kui jah, kas keegi oskab teha nö "eestikeelse versiooni" templaadist?
Kui kellelgi selle vastu midagi pole, viin peagi "aabitsa" sissekandesse muudatused sisse ning hakkan tasapisi ka teisi sissekandeid ümbervormistama. NKuusik (arutelu) 5. jaanuar 2015, kell 19:37 (EET)
- Mina eelistan praegust vormistust. Miks peaksid tõlked olema peidetud? Kui tõlked on tähenduse all, siis on neid lihtsam tähendusega seostada.
- Võib-olla saab midagi ette võtta, et ei oleks inetu. Kuidas siis see mugavam on, kui tõlkeid tuleb teisest kohast otsida, ja kuidas see vähem inetu on? Andres (arutelu) 6. jaanuar 2015, kell 17:52 (EET)
- Et tegu on elementidega, mida lugeja ei näe, siis nad võivad ka ingliskeelseteks jääda. Võib muidugi tulla keegi, kes hakkab nõudma, et mallide pealkirjad oleks eestikeelsed.
- Tuleb teha lehekülg süntaksiga Mall:Pealkiri ning sinna kopeerida inglise keeles olev. Kui seal on omakorda mõnda malli kasutatud, siis need mallid peavad ka meil olema. Teha ka ümbersuunamine ingliskeelse pealkirja alt, et oleks lihtsam malle üle võtta. Andres (arutelu) 6. jaanuar 2015, kell 18:22 (EET)
- Praeguse vormistuse puhul on tõlkeid muust tekstist raske eristada ning kui tõlkeid on palju (nagu "aabitsa" puhul), võtab see enda alla suure osa artikli mahust. Üritasin kuidagi tabelit ka niimoodi vormistada, et suletav tõlke tabel asuks kohe pärast tähendust, aga see lööb üleüldise numeratsiooni sassi. Julgen öelda, et 90% vikisõnastike puhul on tõlked eraldi peatükina sissekande lõpus ning varjatud lahtikäiva tabeli abil (inglise keeles, prantsuse keeles, vene keeles, saksa keeles, uuskreeka keeles. Kasutan muukeelseid vikisõnastikke päris palju ning satun eestikeelses vikisõnastikus alati segadusse. Kui mõiste definitsioon tõlke tabelis üle korrata, oleks see lugejale piisavalt selge? NKuusik (arutelu) 6. jaanuar 2015, kell 22:46 (EET)
- Ma ei saa rääkida lugejatest üldiselt, vaid ainult enda kui lugeja eelistustest ja oma arvamustest. Selleks et teada saada, mida enamik lugejaid eelistab, tuleks küsitleda rohkemaid inimesi.
- Selle kohta, miks mujal on teisiti, on mul niisugune oletus, et inglise keeleruumis ollakse harjunud kasutama peamiselt seletavaid sõnaraamatuid. Tõlkesõnaraamatuid kasutavad vähesed friigid, sest võõrkeeli pole tarvis osata. Sellepärast on tõlked lõppu pandud ja ära peidetud. (Ja teised on lihtsalt inglise vikisõnastiku eeskuju üle võtnud). Eestlaste jaoks on tõlked palju tähtsamad ja võib-olla peamine osa sõnastikust. Kui nüüd tõlge on paigutatud lõppu ja veel ära ka peita, siis võib kergesti jääda mulje, et tõlkeid polegi.
- Mis puutub sellesse, et tõlkeid on muust tekstist raske eristada, siis 1) miks nad peaksid olema eristatud, kui nad on samasugune sõnaraamatu osa nagu muu materjal? 2) kui tõlked on peidetud, on neid ka tülikas üles leida, eriti kui selliseid peidetud kaste on mitu (eriti tülikas on see vene vikis, kus on palju müra).
- Möönan, et kui tõlkeid on palju, siis see teeb kasutamise ebamugavaks. Inglise vikisõnastikus on funktsioon, mis võimaldab lugejal valida keeled, millesse ta tõlget soovib. Et seda rakendada, on tarvis teha rohkem ja keerulisemaid muudatusi. Meie praegusesse süsteemi ei ole isegi HTMLi eksperdil õnnestunud paigutada isegi mitte kahetulbalist tabelut.
- Pakun välja kaks kompromissi. Esiteks, tõlked võiks paigutada kohe põhiosa järele. Siis on nad kergemini leitavad ja ka tähenduste võrdlemine oleks lihtsam. Teiseks, võiks koostada talutava pikkusega (mis see Sinu arvates oleks?) nimekirja oletatavalt otsitavamatest keeltest ning vormistada tõlked nendesse keeltesse nii nagu praegu ja lisada link "teised keeled", mis viib täielikumasse tõlgete tabelisse. Nii saaks enamik lugejaid asja ära ajada ka ilma tõlgete kasti minemata. Andres (arutelu) 7. jaanuar 2015, kell 12:39 (EET)
- Sellist ettepanekut on varemgi korduvalt tehtud, näiteks ülalpool. 88.196.241.249 7. jaanuar 2015, kell 15:05 (EET)
- Jah, aga millegipärast jäid arutelud soiku. Teksti sees peitmiseks pole tehnilist lahendust leitud.
- Kõige parem kompromisslahendus oleks minu meelest see, kui tõlgete juurde jäetaks lühike tõlgete nimekiri ning link täieliku tõlgete nimekirja juurde. Siis ei oleks järgmine tähendus liiga kaugel, aga enamik lugejaid saaks oma tõlked kohe kätte. Siis ei oleks vahet, kus tõlgete kast asub. Andres (arutelu) 7. jaanuar 2015, kell 15:19 (EET)
- Andres, vastuseks Sinu küsimusele number 1 ütleksin, et küsimus pole mitte tõlgete eristamises ülejäänud elementidest, kuivõrd informatsiooni paremas liigendamises ning siinkohal saaks kindlasti muidki parandusi teha. Näiteks eristatakse inglisekeelses Wikipedias eristatakse sünonüümid, tuletised, tõlked jne... eri tasme peatükkidena, meil on see miskipärast osaliselt eristatud lnumberloendina. Põhimõtteliselt pakungi ette, et tõlked võiksid olla mitte loendiliikmena, vaid eraldi peatükina. Minu poolest võivad tõlked kohe tähenduste järel asuda, kui Sulle see parem tundub. Samas arvan, et ei ole mõistlik tõlkeloendit jagada kaheks otsitavamateks ja vähem otsitavamateks keelteks, mis tundub mulle pigem keerulise lahendusena (mille alusel? kuidas esitame "otsitavamaid" ja kuidas "vähem otsitavaid" keeli?) ning ka seda, et tõlked võiks siiski "ära peita" avatavasse tabelisse, sest 1) tegemist on üldlevinud vormistusega, mida tunnevad ära ka muukeelsete vikisõnastikega harjunud kasutajad, 2) kogu artikkel muutub kompaktsemaks - "trans-top"; "trans-mid" ja "trans-bottom" käsklustega on hõlpsasti võimalik teha ka kahetulbalisi tabeleid. Vaatasin, et eelnevas arutelus on minu ettepanekut põhimõtteliselt juba esitletud nõnda, et tõlge asub kohe definitsioonide järel. Miks ei võiks olla siis selline vormistus: daam/peida tõlked? NKuusik (arutelu) 8. jaanuar 2015, kell 00:30 (EET)
- Praegu on loogika niisugune, et need asjad, mis on seotud konkreetse tähendusega, on põhipeatükis, teised asjad on eraldi peatükkides.
- See, et kõik tõlked oleksid esimese rubriigina pärast põhipeatükki, oleks minu meelest paremuselt teine lahendus. Selle eelis oleks, et tähendused ja tõlked ei oleks üksteises nii kaugel, et neid on raske seostada.
- Ma sain enne asjast nii aru, et peamine põhjus, miks tõlked tahetakse eraldi panna, on see, et nad võtavad liiga palju ruumi ja lõhuvad seetõttu esituse terviklikkust. Sellise lahenduse halb külg on aga minu meelest see, et nõnda kisutakse tõlked üldisest esitusest lahku. Sellepärast ma esitasingi niisuguse kompromissettepaneku. Selle hea külg on veel see, et niisugusel juhul võivad tõlked olla ka päris lõpus, kus neid ei pea tingimata peitma, sest nende taha pole tarvis vaadata. Pealegi on olemas sisukord, mille järgi saab soovitu leida. Jah, nüüd endale vastu rääkides osutan sellele, et tõlgete olemasolust saab teada ka sisukorrast.
- Tõlkesõnaraamatutes esitatakse tõlkevasted võimalikult kohe. Ma oletan, et lugejad on just sellega harjunud. Oletan, et teiste vikisõnastikega harjunud olek on pigem erandlik. Ja kui sellega harjunud ei olda, siis minu arvates võivad peidetud asjad kergesti märkamatuks jääda. Peitmise halb külg on ka see, et eri tähenduste tõlkeid pole võimalik korraga näha. Andres (arutelu) 8. jaanuar 2015, kell 12:30 (EET)
- Aga jällegi, siin on ainult minu arvamused ja eelistused. Kui selgub, et enamikule kasutajatele sobib paremini teistsugune vormistus, siis mina selle vastu ei ole. Andres (arutelu) 8. jaanuar 2015, kell 12:32 (EET)
- Sinu näidatud eeskuju puhul ei meeldi mulle mallide rohkus. Kui artikli kirjutaja peab meeles pidama hulga malle, siis on raske uusi kirjutajaid leida. Vormistus peaks olema selline, mida saaks ka ilma paljude mallideta hõlpsasti tekitada. Aja jooksul muidugi mallid kuluvad pähe. Andres (arutelu) 8. jaanuar 2015, kell 12:35 (EET)
- Või siis oleks nii, nagu inglise vikis, kus tõlkevastete lisaja ei pea ise süntaksi peale mõtlema. See küll jälle oleks tülikas, kui tõlkevasteid massiliselt lisada.
- Nähtavasti tuleks siis rohkem kasutada valmis blankette, nagu mõned juba on poolikul kujul olemas. Andres (arutelu) 8. jaanuar 2015, kell 12:42 (EET)
- Jah, sellisel juhul oleks uue artikli luues hea lisada kohe vastav mall, mis võiks olla näiteks seesama tõlke templaat, mida mainisin teemat algatades. Samas ei ole veel lõplikult selge, kuidas suhtuvad muudatusettepanekusse teised Vikisõnastiku kasutajad. Praegu on valdavalt sõna võtnud vaid meie kaks, niiet ootaks-küsiks rohkem teiste kasutajate arvamusi. NKuusik (arutelu) 8. jaanuar 2015, kell 22:31 (EET)
- Mall tuleb ümber töötada eeltäidetavaks vormistuseks, nagu see artikli loomisel ette tuleb. Mina ei oska seda ise teha, aga küllap keegi on, kes oskab.
- Meil on siin nii vähe aktiivseid tegijaid, et pole eriti loota, et keegi veel sõna võtab. Arvan, et ekstra tasub arvamust küsida Metsavennalt ja AivoK-lt. Ja isegi nendest arvamustest minu meelest ei piisa, kui tahame teada saada, mida tavalugeja võiks eelistada. Andres (arutelu) 9. jaanuar 2015, kell 08:38 (EET)
- Mulle meeldiks kui tõlked oleksid eespool, aga mitte tingimata iga tähenduse järel. Samas ei tohiks nad peidetud olla (nagu inglise ja vene versioonis) vaid avatud (nagu saksa versioonis). Kes tahab, saab need ise peita, aga võib juhtuda, et mõni kasutaja ei pane peidetud tõlkeid tähele. See nõuaks ka asjatult lisaklikke, eriti kui iga tähenduse taga on tõlked ja tekitab pettumust (kui vajalik tõlge puudub - nagu praegu enamasti).--Metsavend (arutelu) 9. jaanuar 2015, kell 12:24 (EET)
- Jah, sellisel juhul oleks uue artikli luues hea lisada kohe vastav mall, mis võiks olla näiteks seesama tõlke templaat, mida mainisin teemat algatades. Samas ei ole veel lõplikult selge, kuidas suhtuvad muudatusettepanekusse teised Vikisõnastiku kasutajad. Praegu on valdavalt sõna võtnud vaid meie kaks, niiet ootaks-küsiks rohkem teiste kasutajate arvamusi. NKuusik (arutelu) 8. jaanuar 2015, kell 22:31 (EET)
- Andres, vastuseks Sinu küsimusele number 1 ütleksin, et küsimus pole mitte tõlgete eristamises ülejäänud elementidest, kuivõrd informatsiooni paremas liigendamises ning siinkohal saaks kindlasti muidki parandusi teha. Näiteks eristatakse inglisekeelses Wikipedias eristatakse sünonüümid, tuletised, tõlked jne... eri tasme peatükkidena, meil on see miskipärast osaliselt eristatud lnumberloendina. Põhimõtteliselt pakungi ette, et tõlked võiksid olla mitte loendiliikmena, vaid eraldi peatükina. Minu poolest võivad tõlked kohe tähenduste järel asuda, kui Sulle see parem tundub. Samas arvan, et ei ole mõistlik tõlkeloendit jagada kaheks otsitavamateks ja vähem otsitavamateks keelteks, mis tundub mulle pigem keerulise lahendusena (mille alusel? kuidas esitame "otsitavamaid" ja kuidas "vähem otsitavaid" keeli?) ning ka seda, et tõlked võiks siiski "ära peita" avatavasse tabelisse, sest 1) tegemist on üldlevinud vormistusega, mida tunnevad ära ka muukeelsete vikisõnastikega harjunud kasutajad, 2) kogu artikkel muutub kompaktsemaks - "trans-top"; "trans-mid" ja "trans-bottom" käsklustega on hõlpsasti võimalik teha ka kahetulbalisi tabeleid. Vaatasin, et eelnevas arutelus on minu ettepanekut põhimõtteliselt juba esitletud nõnda, et tõlge asub kohe definitsioonide järel. Miks ei võiks olla siis selline vormistus: daam/peida tõlked? NKuusik (arutelu) 8. jaanuar 2015, kell 00:30 (EET)
- Praeguse vormistuse puhul on tõlkeid muust tekstist raske eristada ning kui tõlkeid on palju (nagu "aabitsa" puhul), võtab see enda alla suure osa artikli mahust. Üritasin kuidagi tabelit ka niimoodi vormistada, et suletav tõlke tabel asuks kohe pärast tähendust, aga see lööb üleüldise numeratsiooni sassi. Julgen öelda, et 90% vikisõnastike puhul on tõlked eraldi peatükina sissekande lõpus ning varjatud lahtikäiva tabeli abil (inglise keeles, prantsuse keeles, vene keeles, saksa keeles, uuskreeka keeles. Kasutan muukeelseid vikisõnastikke päris palju ning satun eestikeelses vikisõnastikus alati segadusse. Kui mõiste definitsioon tõlke tabelis üle korrata, oleks see lugejale piisavalt selge? NKuusik (arutelu) 6. jaanuar 2015, kell 22:46 (EET)
[Global proposal] m.Vikisõnastik.org: (kõik) Redigeerida lehekülgi
muudaHi, this message is to let you know that, on domains like et.m.wikipedia.org, unregistered users cannot edit. At the Wikimedia Forum, where global configuration changes are normally discussed, a few dozens users propose to restore normal editing permissions on all mobile sites. Please read and comment!
Thanks and sorry for writing in English, Nemo 2. märts 2015, kell 00:32 (EET)
Inspire Campaign: Improving diversity, improving content
muudaThis March, we’re organizing an Inspire Campaign to encourage and support new ideas for improving gender diversity on Wikimedia projects. Less than 20% of Wikimedia contributors are women, and many important topics are still missing in our content. We invite all Wikimedians to participate. If you have an idea that could help address this problem, please get involved today! The campaign runs until March 31.
All proposals are welcome - research projects, technical solutions, community organizing and outreach initiatives, or something completely new! Funding is available from the Wikimedia Foundation for projects that need financial support. Constructive, positive feedback on ideas is appreciated, and collaboration is encouraged - your skills and experience may help bring someone else’s project to life. Join us at the Inspire Campaign and help this project better represent the world’s knowledge!
(Sorry for the English - please translate this message!) MediaWiki message delivery (arutelu) 4. märts 2015, kell 22:01 (EET)
Artiklite esitus kategooriates
muudaVaikimis kuvatakse kategoorias 200 artiklit ühel lehel. Kui varem jaotusid need kolme tulpa võrdselt, siis nüüd toimub murdmine ainult uue tähe kohalt. See pole ilus. Kas saaks taastada endised seaded? --Metsavend (arutelu) 7. märts 2015, kell 10:14 (EET)
SUL finalization update
muudaHi all,apologies for writing in English, please read this page for important information and an update involving SUL finalization, scheduled to take place in one month. Thanks. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 13. märts 2015, kell 21:45 (EET)
Stewards confirmation rules
muudaHello, I made a proposal on Meta to change the rules for the steward confirmations. Currently consensus to remove is required for a steward to lose his status, however I think it's fairer to the community if every steward needed the consensus to keep. As this is an issue that affects all WMF wikis, I'm sending this notification to let people know & be able to participate. Best regards, --MF-W 10. aprill 2015, kell 19:12 (EEST)
Kustutamise mall
muudaMinu kasutaja alamlehele (Kasutaja:Metsavend/koodid) ilmusid järgmised teated:
- See kasutaja on esitatud kustutamiseks, sest test, üldist teavet artiklite kustutamise kohta artiklite kustutamise leheküljelt.
Mida see tähendab? Kas üle 2000 rea ei tohi alamlehel olla? --Metsavend (arutelu) 18. mai 2015, kell 15:22 (EEST)
- Ei usu, küllap see oli bugi. Andres (arutelu) 19. mai 2015, kell 11:03 (EEST)
HTTPS
muudaApologies for writing in English.
Hi everyone.
Over the last few years, the Wikimedia Foundation has been working towards enabling HTTPS by default for all users, including unregistered ones, for better privacy and security for both readers and editors. This has taken a long time, as there were different aspects to take into account. Our servers haven't been ready to handle it. The Wikimedia Foundation has had to balance sometimes conflicting goals.
Forced HTTPS has just been implemented on all Wikimedia projects. Some of you might already be aware of this, as a few Wikipedia language versions were converted to HTTPS last week and the then affected communities were notified.
Most of Wikimedia editors shouldn't be affected at all. If you edit as registered user, you've probably already had to log in through HTTPS. We'll keep an eye on this to make sure everything is working as it should. Do get in touch with us if you have any problems after this change or contact me if you have any other questions.
20. juuni 2015, kell 01:00 (EEST)
HTTPS
muudaApologies for writing in English.
Hi everyone.
Over the last few years, the Wikimedia Foundation has been working towards enabling HTTPS by default for all users, including unregistered ones, for better privacy and security for both readers and editors. This has taken a long time, as there were different aspects to take into account. Our servers haven't been ready to handle it. The Wikimedia Foundation has had to balance sometimes conflicting goals.
Forced HTTPS has just been implemented on all Wikimedia projects. Some of you might already be aware of this, as a few Wikipedia language versions were converted to HTTPS last week and the then affected communities were notified.
Most of Wikimedia editors shouldn't be affected at all. If you edit as registered user, you've probably already had to log in through HTTPS. We'll keep an eye on this to make sure everything is working as it should. Do get in touch with us if you have any problems after this change or contact me if you have any other questions.
20. juuni 2015, kell 02:41 (EEST)
Proposal to create PNG thumbnails of static GIF images
muudaThere is a proposal at the Commons Village Pump requesting feedback about the thumbnails of static GIF images: It states that static GIF files should have their thumbnails created in PNG. The advantages of PNG over GIF would be visible especially with GIF images using an alpha channel. (compare the thumbnails on the side)
This change would affect all wikis, so if you support/oppose or want to give general feedback/concerns, please post them to the proposal page. Thank you. --McZusatz (talk) & MediaWiki message delivery (arutelu) 24. juuli 2015, kell 08:07 (EEST)
What does a Healthy Community look like to you?
muudaHi,
The Community Engagement department at the Wikimedia Foundation has launched a new learning campaign. The WMF wants to record community impressions about what makes a healthy online community.
Share your views and/or create a drawing and take a chance to win a Wikimania 2016 scholarship!
Join the WMF as we begin a conversation about Community Health. Contribute a drawing or answer the questions on the campaign's page.
Why get involved?
muudaThe world is changing. The way we relate to knowledge is transforming. As the next billion people come online, the Wikimedia movement is working to bring more users on the wiki projects. The way we interact and collaborate online are key to building sustainable projects. How accessible are Wikimedia projects to newcomers today? Are we helping each other learn?
Share your views on this matter that affects us all!
We invite everyone to take part in this learning campaign. Wikimedia Foundation will distribute one Wikimania Scholarship 2016 among those participants who are eligible.
More information
muuda- All participants must have a registered user of at least one month antiquity on any Wikimedia project before the starting date of the campaign.
- All eligible contributions must be done until August 23, 2015 at 23:59 UTC
- Wiki link: Community Health learning campaign
- URL https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/Community_Health_learning_campaign
- Contact: María Cruz / Twitter: Mall:@WikiEval #CommunityHealth / email: evalMall:@wikimediaMall:dotorg
Happy editing!
MediaWiki message delivery (arutelu) 1. august 2015, kell 02:42 (EEST)
How can we improve Wikimedia grants to support you better?
muudaMy apologies for posting this message in English. Please help translate it if you can.
Hello,
The Wikimedia Foundation would like your feedback about how we can reimagine Wikimedia Foundation grants, to better support people and ideas in your Wikimedia project. Ways to participate:
- Respond to questions on the discussion page of the idea.
- Join a small group conversation.
- Learn more about this consultation.
Feedback is welcome in any language.
With thanks,
I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, Wikimedia Foundation.
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How can we improve Wikimedia grants to support you better?
muudaMy apologies for posting this message in English. Please help translate it if you can.
Hello,
The Wikimedia Foundation would like your feedback about how we can reimagine Wikimedia Foundation grants, to better support people and ideas in your Wikimedia project. Ways to participate:
- Respond to questions on the discussion page of the idea.
- Join a small group conversation.
- Learn more about this consultation.
Feedback is welcome in any language.
With thanks,
I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, Wikimedia Foundation.
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Introducing the Wikimedia public policy site
muudaHi all,
We are excited to introduce a new Wikimedia Public Policy site. The site includes resources and position statements on access, copyright, censorship, intermediary liability, and privacy. The site explains how good public policy supports the Wikimedia projects, editors, and mission.
Visit the public policy portal: https://policy.wikimedia.org/
Please help translate the statements on Meta Wiki. You can read more on the Wikimedia blog.
Thanks,
Yana and Stephen (Talk) 2. september 2015, kell 21:12 (EEST)
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Zaza ja dõmli keel
muudaZaza on makrokeel, mis koosneb põhja- ja lõuna-zaza keelest. Lõuna-zaza keelt nimetatakse ka dõmli keeleks, sellele on kategooria olemas. Kas zaza keele nimetus jätta siis põhja-zaza keelele? Samas räägib lõuna-zaza keelt 10 korda rohkem inimesi. --Metsavend (arutelu) 2. september 2015, kell 22:32 (EEST)
- Teine on kõrmandžki keel. Andres (arutelu) 2. september 2015, kell 23:16 (EEST)
- Jah, aga nt inglise vikisõnastikus on ainult zaza keel ja ma ei tea kumba varianti seal on mõeldud. Praegu on ka siin zazakeelne sõna: maki. Tuleb otsustada, kas jätta ainult zaza või ainult dõmli ja kõrmandžki. --Metsavend (arutelu) 2. september 2015, kell 23:20 (EEST)
- Zazakeelne Vikipeedia kasutab dõmli koodi: https://diq.wikipedia.org --Metsavend (arutelu) 2. september 2015, kell 23:27 (EEST)
- Pakun, et tuleb jätta eraldi dõmli ja kõrmandžki, ning oletan, et zaza all mõeldakse ka nii zaza kui ka inglise vikis dõmlit. Seda peaks saama sõnastike jms järgi kontrollida, võib ka küsida teiste vikide tegijatelt üle küsida. Kui see nii on, siis võib mugavuse mõttes teha zaza koodi ümbersuunamiseks dõmlile. Andres (arutelu) 3. september 2015, kell 15:28 (EEST)
- Seda ma ütlesin ainult selle põhjal, mis Sa kirjutasid. Ma hakkasin vaatama, aga ei saa suurt aru. Kui neil on ainult üks kirjakeel, siis võiks küll ka olla lihtsalt zaza. Ethnologue'i järgi ma ei saanud sellest aru. Andres (arutelu) 3. september 2015, kell 15:46 (EEST)
- Ma ei leidnud ka kuskilt infot mitme kirjakeele kohta. Ka praegune zaza kirjakeel on alles kujunemisjärgus ja pole kindlalt normitud. Ethnologue peab zaza põhja- ja lõunamurret ilmselt piisavalt erinevaks, et neid eri keelteks pidada. Samas eristatakse zaza keele sees hoopis kolme peamist murderühma: põhja-, kesk- ja lõunarühma. Vikisõnastikus ei ole ilmselt võimalik neid eri keeltena käsitleda. --Metsavend (arutelu) 3. september 2015, kell 17:02 (EEST)
Open call for Individual Engagement Grants
muudaMy apologies for posting this message in English. Please help translate it if you can.
Greetings! The Individual Engagement Grants program is accepting proposals until September 29th to fund new tools, community-building processes, and other experimental ideas that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers. Whether you need a small or large amount of funds (up to $30,000 USD), Individual Engagement Grants can support you and your team’s project development time in addition to project expenses such as materials, travel, and rental space.
- Submit a grant request
- Get help with your proposal in IdeaLab or an upcoming Hangout session
- Learn from examples of completed Individual Engagement Grants
Thanks,
I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, Wikimedia Foundation. 4. september 2015, kell 23:52 (EEST)
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Only one week left for Individual Engagement Grant proposals!
muuda(Apologies for using English below, please help translate if you are able.)
There is still one week left to submit Individual Engagement Grant (IEG) proposals before the September 29th deadline. If you have ideas for new tools, community-building processes, and other experimental projects that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers, start your proposal today! Please encourage others who have great ideas to apply as well. Support is available if you want help turning your idea into a grant request.
- Submit a grant request
- Get help with your proposal in IdeaLab
- Learn from examples of completed Individual Engagement Grants
I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources 23. september 2015, kell 00:01 (EEST)
Reimagining WMF grants report
muuda(My apologies for using English here, please help translate if you are able.)
Last month, we asked for community feedback on a proposal to change the structure of WMF grant programs. Thanks to the 200+ people who participated! A report on what we learned and changed based on this consultation is now available.
Come read about the findings and next steps as WMF’s Community Resources team begins to implement changes based on your feedback. Your questions and comments are welcome on the outcomes discussion page.
With thanks, I JethroBT (WMF) 28. september 2015, kell 19:56 (EEST)
110 000
muudaVikisõnastikus on nüüd üle 110000 artikli. 110000. artikkel oli tq'lha. --Metsavend (arutelu) 14. oktoober 2015, kell 20:28 (EEST)
111000. artikkel oli teuflisch. --Metsavend (arutelu) 31. oktoober 2015, kell 17:34 (EET)
- Seekord sai tuhat tõesti ruttu täis :) Andres (arutelu) 31. oktoober 2015, kell 17:58 (EET)
- Jah, pole paha. Tegin selle tuhande kohta statistikat ka: Metsavend 445 artiklit, Andres: 443 artiklit, Raamaturott 94 artiklit ja Yakupva 16 artiklit. Ikka veel väga kahekülgne. --Metsavend (arutelu) 31. oktoober 2015, kell 19:20 (EET)
- Aktiivsus on siin tõesti viimasel ajal tõusnud. Proovin ka enda panust tõsta. Lisaks saksa sõnadele püüan edasi jätkata soome ja mitme teise projektiga.--Raamaturott (arutelu) 31. oktoober 2015, kell 20:55 (EET)
- Jah, pole paha. Tegin selle tuhande kohta statistikat ka: Metsavend 445 artiklit, Andres: 443 artiklit, Raamaturott 94 artiklit ja Yakupva 16 artiklit. Ikka veel väga kahekülgne. --Metsavend (arutelu) 31. oktoober 2015, kell 19:20 (EET)
112000. artikkel oli Johr. --Metsavend (arutelu) 22. november 2015, kell 12:22 (EET) Statistikat ka: Raamaturott 503 artiklit, Metsavend: 403 artiklit, Andres: 61 artiklit ja Yakupva 31 artiklit. --Metsavend (arutelu) 22. november 2015, kell 12:33 (EET)
113000. artikkel oli үжен. --Metsavend (arutelu) 22. detsember 2015, kell 13:10 (EET) Raamaturott 574 artiklit, Metsavend: 282 artiklit, Yakupva 109 artiklit, AivoK 8 artiklit ja Andres: 3 artiklit. --Metsavend (arutelu) 22. detsember 2015, kell 13:16 (EET)
114000. artikkel oli ямны. --Metsavend (arutelu) 5. veebruar 2016, kell 14:55 (EET)
115 000. artikkel oli möglicherweise (18. märts 2016, kell 19:19). --Raamaturott (arutelu) 19. märts 2016, kell 18:58 (EET)
116 000. artikkel oli ทะเล. --Metsavend (arutelu) 5. mai 2016, kell 18:06 (EEST)
117 000. artikkel oli Zulassung (1. juulil). --Metsavend (arutelu) 5. juuli 2016, kell 00:17 (EEST)
118 000. artikkel oli քույր. --Metsavend (arutelu) 8. september 2016, kell 08:36 (EEST)
119 000. artikkel oli raagõs. --Metsavend (arutelu) 21. november 2016, kell 10:21 (EET)
120 000. artikkel oli kanclers--Raamaturott (arutelu) 28. märts 2017, kell 14:46 (EEST)
Community Wishlist Survey
muudaHi everyone! Apologies for posting in English. Translations are very welcome.
The Community Tech team at the Wikimedia Foundation is focused on building improved curation and moderation tools for experienced Wikimedia contributors. We're now starting a Community Wishlist Survey to find the most useful projects that we can work on.
For phase 1 of the survey, we're inviting all active contributors to submit brief proposals, explaining the project that you'd like us to work on, and why it's important. Phase 1 will last for 2 weeks. In phase 2, we'll ask you to vote on the proposals. Afterwards, we'll analyze the top 10 proposals and create a prioritized wishlist.
While most of this process will be conducted in English, we're inviting people from any Wikimedia wiki to submit proposals. We'll also invite volunteer translators to help translate proposals into English.
Your proposal should include: the problem that you want to solve, who would benefit, and a proposed solution, if you have one. You can submit your proposal on the Community Wishlist Survey page, using the entry field and the big blue button. We will be accepting proposals for 2 weeks, ending on November 23.
We're looking forward to hearing your ideas!
Wikimania 2016 scholarships ambassadors needed
muudaHello! Wikimania 2016 scholarships will soon be open; by the end of the week we'll form the committee and we need your help, see Scholarship committee for details.
If you want to carefully review nearly a thousand applications in January, you might be a perfect committee member. Otherwise, you can volunteer as "ambassador": you will observe all the committee activities, ensure that people from your language or project manage to apply for a scholarship, translate scholarship applications written in your language to English and so on. Ambassadors are allowed to ask for a scholarship, unlike committee members.
Wikimania 2016 scholarships subteam 10. november 2015, kell 12:47 (EET)
Community Wishlist Survey
muudaHi everyone! Apologies for posting this in English. Translations are very welcome.
We're beginning the second part of the Community Tech team's Community Wishlist Survey, and we're inviting all active contributors to vote on the proposals that have been submitted.
Thanks to you and other Wikimedia contributors, 111 proposals were submitted to the team. We've split the proposals into categories, and now it's time to vote! You can vote for any proposal listed on the pages, using the {{Support}} tag. Feel free to add comments pro or con, but only support votes will be counted. The voting period will be 2 weeks, ending on December 14.
The proposals with the most support votes will be the team's top priority backlog to investigate and address. Thank you for participating, and we're looking forward to hearing what you think!
Community Tech via
MediaWiki message delivery (arutelu) 1. detsember 2015, kell 16:38 (EET)
Wikimania 2016 Scholarships - Deadline soon!
muuda- Palun aita emakeelde tõlkida
A reminder - applications for scholarships for Wikimania 2016 in Esino Lario, Italy, are closing soon! Please get your applications in by January 9th. To apply, visit the page below:
Patrick Earley (WMF) via MediaWiki message delivery (arutelu) 5. jaanuar 2016, kell 03:49 (EET)
Wikimania 2016 Scholarships - Deadline soon!
muuda- Palun aita emakeelde tõlkida
A reminder - applications for scholarships for Wikimania 2016 in Esino Lario, Italy, are closing soon! Please get your applications in by January 9th. To apply, visit the page below:
Patrick Earley (WMF) via MediaWiki message delivery (arutelu) 5. jaanuar 2016, kell 04:49 (EET)
2016 WMF Strategy consultation
muuda- Palun aita emakeelde tõlkida
Hello, all.
The Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) has launched a consultation to help create and prioritize WMF strategy beginning July 2016 and for the 12 to 24 months thereafter. This consultation will be open, on Meta, from 18 January to 26 February, after which the Foundation will also use these ideas to help inform its Annual Plan. (More on our timeline can be found on that Meta page.)
Your input is welcome (and greatly desired) at the Meta discussion, 2016 Strategy/Community consultation.
Apologies for English, where this is posted on a non-English project. We thought it was more important to get the consultation translated as much as possible, and good headway has been made there in some languages. There is still much to do, however! We created m:2016 Strategy/Translations to try to help coordinate what needs translation and what progress is being made. :)
If you have questions, please reach out to me on my talk page or on the strategy consultation's talk page or by email to mdennis@wikimedia.org.
I hope you'll join us! Maggie Dennis via MediaWiki message delivery (arutelu) 18. jaanuar 2016, kell 21:06 (EET)
Open Call for Individual Engagement Grants
muudaPalun aita emakeelde tõlkida:
Greetings! The Individual Engagement Grants (IEG) program is accepting proposals until April 12th to fund new tools, research, outreach efforts, and other experiments that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers. Whether you need a small or large amount of funds (up to $30,000 USD), IEGs can support you and your team’s project development time in addition to project expenses such as materials, travel, and rental space.
- Submit a grant request or draft your proposal in IdeaLab
- Get help with your proposal in an upcoming Hangout session
- Learn from examples of completed Individual Engagement Grants
With thanks, I JethroBT (WMF) 31. märts 2016, kell 20:47 (EEST)
Server switch 2016
muudaThe Wikimedia Foundation will be testing its newest data center in Dallas. This will make sure Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to conduct a planned test. This test will show whether they can reliably switch from one data center to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems.
They will switch all traffic to the new data center on Tuesday, 19 April.
On Thursday, 21 April, they will switch back to the primary data center.
Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki, all editing must stop during those two switches. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.
You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.
- You will not be able to edit for approximately 15 to 30 minutes on Tuesday, 19 April and Thursday, 21 April, starting at 14:00 UTC (15:00 BST, 16:00 CEST, 10:00 EDT, 07:00 PDT).
If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.
Other effects:
- Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped.
Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.
- There will be a code freeze for the week of 18 April.
No non-essential code deployments will take place.
This test was originally planned to take place on March 22. April 19th and 21st are the new dates. You can read the schedule at wikitech.wikimedia.org. They will post any changes on that schedule. There will be more notifications about this. Please share this information with your community. /User:Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18. aprill 2016, kell 00:08 (EEST)
JavaScript
muudaCompact Links coming soon to this wiki
muudaPalun aita emakeelde tõlkida
Hello, I wanted to give a heads up about an upcoming feature for this wiki which you may seen already in the Tech News. Compact Language Links has been available as a beta-feature on all Wikimedia wikis since 2014. With compact language links enabled, users are shown a much shorter list of languages on the interlanguage link section of an article (see image). This will be enabled as a feature in the soon for all users, which can be turned on or off using a preference setting. We look forward to your feedback and please do let us know if you have any questions. Details about Compact Language Links can be read in the project documentation.
Due to the large scale enablement of this feature, we have had to use MassMessage for this announcement and as a result it is only written in English. We will really appreciate if this message can be translated for other users of this wiki. The main announcement can also be translated on this page. Thank you. On behalf of the Wikimedia Language team: Runa Bhattacharjee (WMF) (talk)-29. juuni 2016, kell 16:06 (EEST)
Compact Language Links enabled in this wiki today
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Compact Language Links has been available as a beta-feature on all Wikimedia wikis since 2014. With compact language links enabled, users are shown a much shorter list of languages on the interlanguage link section of an article (see image). Based on several factors, this shorter list of languages is expected to be more relevant for them and valuable for finding similar content in a language known to them. More information about compact language links can be found in the documentation.
From today onwards, compact language links has been enabled as the default listing of interlanguage links on this wiki. However, using the button at the bottom, you will be able to see a longer list of all the languages the article has been written in. The setting for this compact list can be changed by using the checkbox under User Preferences -> Appearance -> Languages
The compact language links feature has been tested extensively by the Wikimedia Language team, which developed it. However, in case there are any problems or other feedback please let us know on the project talk page. It is to be noted that on some wikis the presence of an existing older gadget that was used for a similar purpose may cause an interference for compact language list. We would like to bring this to the attention of the admins of this wiki. Full details are on this phabricator ticket (in English).
Due to the large scale enablement of this feature, we have had to use MassMessage for this announcement and as a result it is only written in English. We will really appreciate if this message can be translated for other users of this wiki. Thank you. On behalf of the Wikimedia Language team: Runa Bhattacharjee (WMF) (talk)-1. juuli 2016, kell 06:05 (EEST)
Open call for Project Grants
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- Greetings! The Project Grants program is accepting proposals from July 1st to August 2nd to fund new tools, research, offline outreach (including editathon series, workshops, etc), online organizing (including contests), and other experiments that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers.
- Whether you need a small or large amount of funds, Project Grants can support you and your team’s project development time in addition to project expenses such as materials, travel, and rental space.
- Submit a grant request or draft your proposal in IdeaLab
- Get help with your proposal in an upcoming Hangout session
- Learn from examples of completed Individual Engagement Grants or Project and Event Grants
- Also accepting candidates to join the Project Grants Committee through July 15.
- With thanks, I JethroBT (WMF) 5. juuli 2016, kell 18:25 (EEST)
prantslaste tegemistest
muudaSiin on Wikimania ettekanne prantslaste tegemistest Vikisõnastiku edendamiseks: Wikimania 2016 - How the French Wiktionary became a grown-up project. --WikedKentaur (arutelu) 7. august 2016, kell 21:14 (EEST)
Save/Publish
muudaThe Editing team is planning to change the name of the “Salvesta” button to “Avalda lehekülg” and “Avalda muudatused”. “Avalda lehekülg” will be used when you create a new page. “Avalda muudatused” will be used when you change an existing page. The names will be consistent in all editing environments.[1][2]
This change will probably happen during the week of 30 August 2016. The change will be announced in Tech News when it happens.
If you are fluent in a language other than English, please check the status of translations at translatewiki.net for “Avalda lehekülg” and “Avalda muudatused”.
The main reason for this change is to avoid confusion for new editors. Repeated user research studies with new editors have shown that some new editors believed that “Salvesta” would save a private copy of a new page in their accounts, rather than permanently publishing their changes on the web. It is important for this part of the user interface to be clear, since it is difficult to remove public information after it is published. We believe that the confusion caused by the “Salvesta” button increases the workload for experienced editors, who have to clean up the information that people unintentionally disclose, and report it to the functionaries and stewards to suppress it. Clarifying what the button does will reduce this problem.
Beyond that, the goal is to make all the wikis and languages more consistent, and some wikis made this change many years ago. The Legal team at the Wikimedia Foundation supports this change. Making the edit interface easier to understand will make it easier to handle licensing and privacy questions that may arise.
Any help pages or other basic documentation about how to edit pages will also need to be updated, on-wiki and elsewhere. On wiki pages, you can use the wikitext codes {{int:Publishpage}}
and {{int:Publishchanges}}
to display the new labels in the user's preferred language. For the language settings in your account preferences, these wikitext codes produce “Avalda lehekülg” and “Avalda muudatused”.
Please share this news with community members who teach new editors and with others who may be interested.
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muudaWikidata for Wiktionary: let’s get ready for lexicographical data!
muudaHello all,
Sorry for writing this message in English, please feel free to translate it in your own language below.
The Wikidata development team will start working on integrating lexicographical data in the knowledge base soon and we want to make sure we do this together with you.
Wikidata is a constantly evolving project and after four years of existence, we start with implementing support for Wiktionary editors and content, by allowing you to store and improve lexicographical data, in addition to the concepts already maintained by thousands of editors on Wikidata.
We have been working on this idea for almost three years and improving it with a lot of inputs from community members to understand Wiktionary processes.
Starting this project, we hope that the editors will be able to collaborate across Wiktionaries more easily. We expect to increase the number of editors and visibility of languages, and we want to provide the groundwork for new tools for editors.
Our development plan contains several phases in order to build the structure to include lexicographical data:
- creating automatic interwiki links on Wiktionary,
- creating new entity types for lexemes, senses, and forms on Wikidata,
- providing data access to Wikidata from Wiktionary
- improving the display of lexicographical information on Wikidata.
During the next months, we will do our best to provide you the technical structure to store lexicographical data on Wikidata and use it on Wiktionary. Don’t hesitate to discuss this within your local community, and give us feedback about your needs and the particularities of your languages.
Information about supporting lexicographical entities on Wikidata is available on this page. You can find an overview of the project, the detail of the development plan, answers to frequently asked questions, and a list of people ready to help us. If you want to have general discussions and questions about the project, please use the general talk page, as we won’t be able to follow all the talk pages on Wiktionaries. If you don’t feel comfortable with English, you can write in your own language and hopefully someone will volunteer to translate.
Bests regards, Lea Lacroix (WMDE) (talk)
- Minu meelest see ei takista meil praegu Vikisõnaraamatut propageerimast. Andres (arutelu) 13. september 2016, kell 18:41 (EEST)
Grants to improve your project
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Greetings! The Project Grants program is currently accepting proposals for funding. There is just over a week left to submit before the October 11 deadline. If you have ideas for software, offline outreach, research, online community organizing, or other projects that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers, start your proposal today! Please encourage others who have great ideas to apply as well. Support is available if you want help turning your idea into a grant request.
- Submit a grant request
- Get help: In IdeaLab or an upcoming Hangout session
- Learn from examples of completed Individual Engagement Grants or Project and Event Grants
I JethroBT (WMF) (talk) 30. september 2016, kell 23:11 (EEST)
Creative Commons 4.0
muudaHello! I'm writing from the Wikimedia Foundation to invite you to give your feedback on a proposed move from CC BY-SA 3.0 to a CC BY-SA 4.0 license across all Wikimedia projects. The consultation will run from October 5 to November 8, and we hope to receive a wide range of viewpoints and opinions. Please, if you are interested, take part in the discussion on Meta-Wiki.
Apologies that this message is only in English. This message can be read and translated in more languages here. Joe Sutherland (talk) 6. oktoober 2016, kell 04:35 (EEST)
Password reset
muudaI apologise that this message is in English. ⧼Centralnotice-shared-help-translate⧽
We are having a problem with attackers taking over wiki accounts with privileged user rights (for example, admins, bureaucrats, oversighters, checkusers). It appears that this may be because of weak or reused passwords.
Community members are working along with members of multiple teams at the Wikimedia Foundation to address this issue.
In the meantime, we ask that everyone takes a look at the passwords they have chosen for their wiki accounts. If you know that you've chosen a weak password, or if you've chosen a password that you are using somewhere else, please change those passwords.
Select strong passwords – eight or more characters long, and containing letters, numbers, and punctuation. Joe Sutherland (arutelu) / MediaWiki message delivery (arutelu) 14. november 2016, kell 01:59 (EET)
Adding to the above section (Password reset)
muudaPlease accept my apologies - that first line should read "Help with translations!". Joe Sutherland (WMF) (talk) / MediaWiki message delivery (arutelu) 14. november 2016, kell 02:11 (EET)
Call for image filter referendum
muudaThe Wikimedia Foundation, at the direction of the Board of Trustees, will be holding a vote to determine whether members of the community support the creation and usage of an opt-in personal image filter, which would allow readers to voluntarily screen particular types of images strictly for their own account.
Further details and educational materials will be available shortly. The referendum is scheduled for 12-27 August, 2011, and will be conducted on servers hosted by a neutral third party. Referendum details, officials, voting requirements, and supporting materials will be posted at Meta:Image filter referendum shortly.
Sorry for delivering you a message in English. Please help translate the pages on the referendum on Meta and join the translators mailing list.
For the coordinating committee,
Philippe (WMF)
Cbrown1023
Risker
Mardetanha
PeterSymonds
Robert Harris
Trademark discussion
muudaHi, apologies for posting this in English, but I wanted to alert your community to a discussion on Meta about potential changes to the Wikimedia Trademark Policy. Please translate this statement if you can. We hope that you will all participate in the discussion; we also welcome translations of the legal team’s statement into as many languages as possible and encourage you to voice your thoughts there. Please see the Trademark practices discussion (on Meta-Wiki) for more information. Thank you! --Mdennis (WMF) (talk)
Call for comments on draft trademark policy
muudaHi all,
The Wikimedia legal team invites you to participate in the development of the new Wikimedia trademark policy.
The current trademark policy was introduced in 2009 to protect the Wikimedia marks. We are now updating this policy to better balance permissive use of the marks with the legal requirements for preserving them for the community. The new draft trademark policy is ready for your review here, and we encourage you to discuss it here.
We would appreciate if someone would translate this message into your language so more members of your community can contribute to the conversation.
Universal Language Selector will be enabled by default again on this wiki by 21 February 2014
muudaOn January 21 2014 the MediaWiki extension Universal Language Selector (ULS) was disabled on this wiki. A new preference was added for logged-in users to turn on ULS. This was done to prevent slow loading of pages due to ULS webfonts, a behaviour that had been observed by the Wikimedia Technical Operations team on some wikis.
We are now ready to enable ULS again. The temporary preference to enable ULS will be removed. A new checkbox has been added to the Language Panel to enable/disable font delivery. This will be unchecked by default for this wiki, but can be selected at any time by the users to enable webfonts. This is an interim solution while we improve the feature of webfonts delivery.
You can read the announcement and the development plan for more information. Apologies for writing this message only in English. Thank you. Runa
Changes to the default site typography coming soon
muudaThis week, the typography on Wikimedia sites will be updated for all readers and editors who use the default "Vector" skin. This change will involve new serif fonts for some headings, small tweaks to body content fonts, text size, text color, and spacing between elements. The schedule is:
- April 1st: non-Wikipedia projects will see this change live
- April 3rd: Wikipedias will see this change live
This change is very similar to the "Typography Update" Beta Feature that has been available on Wikimedia projects since November 2013. After several rounds of testing and with feedback from the community, this Beta Feature will be disabled and successful aspects enabled in the default site appearance. Users who are logged in may still choose to use another skin, or alter their personal CSS, if they prefer a different appearance. Local common CSS styles will also apply as normal, for issues with local styles and scripts that impact all users.
For more information:
- Summary of changes and FAQ
- Discussion page for feedback or questions
- Post on blog.wikimedia.org
-- Steven Walling (Product Manager) on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation's User Experience Design team
Change in renaming process
muudaPart or all of this message may be in English. Please help translate if possible.
The process involves changing all rename processes into one global renaming process. The ability for local bureaucrats to rename users on this wiki will be turned off on Monday, 15 September 2014, as one of the first steps. Global renamers are in the process of being created to make sure projects and languages are represented by the time this occurs. I sent a note to every bureaucrat about this process three weeks ago with an invitation to participate and many have begun requesting to be a part of the group. Together with the stewards, the global renamers will be empowered to help editors work through the often difficult process of getting a global name.
In parting, visit Special:MergeAccount to unify your account if you have never done so. If your local pages about renaming still need to be updated, please do so and consider pointing people to m:SRUC for future rename requests, especially if this project does not have bureaucrats that hold global renamer permissions. If you have any questions, you can read more on the help page on Meta. You can also follow the technical progress on mediawiki.org. Contact me on Meta any time with questions as well. Thank you for your time.-- User:Keegan (WMF) (talk) 9 September 2014 16.22 (UTC)
This is a message from the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee. Translations are available.
Greetings,
I am pleased to announce that nominations are now being accepted for the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections. This year the Board and the FDC Staff are looking for a diverse set of candidates from regions and projects that are traditionally under-represented on the board and in the movement as well as candidates with experience in technology, product or finance. To this end they have published letters describing what they think is needed and, recognizing that those who know the community the best are the community themselves, the election committee is accepting nominations for community members you think should run and will reach out to those nominated to provide them with information about the job and the election process.
This year, elections are being held for the following roles:
Board of Trustees
The Board of Trustees is the decision-making body that is ultimately responsible for the long term sustainability of the Foundation, so we value wide input into its selection. There are three positions being filled. More information about this role can be found at the board elections page.
Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC)
The Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) makes recommendations about how to allocate Wikimedia movement funds to eligible entities. There are five positions being filled. More information about this role can be found at the FDC elections page.
Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) Ombud
The FDC Ombud receives complaints and feedback about the FDC process, investigates complaints at the request of the Board of Trustees, and summarizes the investigations and feedback for the Board of Trustees on an annual basis. One position is being filled. More information about this role can be found at the FDC Ombudsperson elections page.
The candidacy submission phase lasts from 00:00 UTC April 20 to 23:59 UTC May 5 for the Board and from 00:00 UTCApril 20 to 23:59 UTC April 30 for the FDC and FDC Ombudsperson. This year, we are accepting both self-nominations and nominations of others. More information on this election and the nomination process can be found on the 2015 Wikimedia elections page on Meta-Wiki.
Please feel free to post a note about the election on your project's village pump. Any questions related to the election can be posted on the talk page on Meta, or sent to the election committee's mailing list, board-elections -at- wikimedia.org
On behalf of the Elections Committee,
-Gregory Varnum (User:Varnent)
Coordinator, 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee
Posted by the MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee, 05:03, 21 April 2015 (UTC) • Translate • Get help
This is a message from the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee. Translations are available.
Voting has begun for eligible voters in the 2015 elections for the Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) and FDC Ombudsperson. Questions and discussion with the candidates for the Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) and FDC Ombudsperson will continue during the voting. Nominations for the Board of Trustees will be accepted until 23:59 UTC May 5.
The Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) makes recommendations about how to allocate Wikimedia movement funds to eligible entities. There are five positions on the committee being filled.
The FDC Ombudsperson receives complaints and feedback about the FDC process, investigates complaints at the request of the Board of Trustees, and summarizes the investigations and feedback for the Board of Trustees on an annual basis. One position is being filled.
The voting phase lasts from 00:00 UTC May 3 to 23:59 UTC May 10. Click here to vote. Questions and discussion with the candidates will continue during that time. Click here to ask the FDC candidates a question. Click here to ask the FDC Ombudsperson candidates a question. More information on the candidates and the elections can be found on the 2015 FDC election page, the 2015 FDC Ombudsperson election page, and the 2015 Board election page on Meta-Wiki.
On behalf of the Elections Committee,
-Gregory Varnum (User:Varnent)
Volunteer Coordinator, 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee
Posted by the MediaWiki message delivery 03:45, 4 May 2015 (UTC) • Translate • Get help
This is a message from the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee. Translations are available.
Voting has begun for eligible voters in the 2015 elections for the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. Questions and discussion with the candidates for the Board will continue during the voting.
The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees is the ultimate governing authority of the Wikimedia Foundation, a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization registered in the United States. The Wikimedia Foundation manages many diverse projects such as Wikipedia and Commons.
The voting phase lasts from 00:00 UTC May 17 to 23:59 UTC May 31. Click here to vote. More information on the candidates and the elections can be found on the 2015 Board election page on Meta-Wiki.
On behalf of the Elections Committee,
-Gregory Varnum (User:Varnent)
Volunteer Coordinator, 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee
Posted by the MediaWiki message delivery 17:20, 17 May 2015 (UTC) • Translate • Get help
This is a message from the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee. Translations are available.
Voting has begun for eligible voters in the 2015 elections for the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. Questions and discussion with the candidates for the Board will continue during the voting.
The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees is the ultimate governing authority of the Wikimedia Foundation, a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization registered in the United States. The Wikimedia Foundation manages many diverse projects such as Wikipedia and Commons.
The voting phase lasts from 00:00 UTC May 17 to 23:59 UTC May 31. Click here to vote. More information on the candidates and the elections can be found on the 2015 Board election page on Meta-Wiki.
On behalf of the Elections Committee,
-Gregory Varnum (User:Varnent)
Volunteer Coordinator, 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee
Posted by the MediaWiki message delivery 17:20, 17 May 2015 (UTC) • Translate • Get help
Pywikibot compat will no longer be supported - Please migrate to pywikibot core
muudaSorry for English, I hope someone translates this.
Pywikibot (then "Pywikipediabot") was started back in 2002. In 2007 a new branch (formerly known as "rewrite", now called "core") was started from scratch using the MediaWiki API. The developers of Pywikibot have decided to stop supporting the compat version of Pywikibot due to bad performance and architectural errors that make it hard to update, compared to core. If you are using pywikibot compat it is likely your code will break due to upcoming MediaWiki API changes (e.g. T101524). It is highly recommended you migrate to the core framework. There is a migration guide, and please contact us if you have any problem.
There is an upcoming MediaWiki API breaking change that compat will not be updated for. If your bot's name is in this list, your bot will most likely break.
Thank you,
The Pywikibot development team, 19:30, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
Harassment consultation
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The Community Advocacy team the Wikimedia Foundation has opened a consultation on the topic of harassment on Meta. The consultation period is intended to run for one month from today, November 16, and end on December 17. Please share your thoughts there on harassment-related issues facing our communities and potential solutions. (Note: this consultation is not intended to evaluate specific cases of harassment, but rather to discuss the problem of harassment itself.)
This is a message regarding the proposed 2015 Free Bassel banner. Translations are available.
Hi everyone,
This is to inform all Wikimedia contributors that a straw poll seeking your involvement has just been started on Meta-Wiki.
As some of your might be aware, a small group of Wikimedia volunteers have proposed a banner campaign informing Wikipedia readers about the urgent situation of our fellow Wikipedian, open source software developer and Creative Commons activist, Bassel Khartabil. An exemplary banner and an explanatory page have now been prepared, and translated into about half a dozen languages by volunteer translators.
We are seeking your involvement to decide if the global Wikimedia community approves starting a banner campaign asking Wikipedia readers to call on the Syrian government to release Bassel from prison. We understand that a campaign like this would be unprecedented in Wikipedia's history, which is why we're seeking the widest possible consensus among the community.
Given Bassel's urgent situation and the resulting tight schedule, we ask everyone to get involved with the poll and the discussion to the widest possible extent, and to promote it among your communities as soon as possible.
(Apologies for writing in English; please kindly translate this message into your own language.)
Thank you for your participation!
Posted by the MediaWiki message delivery 21:47, 25 November 2015 (UTC) • Translate • Get help
This is a message from the Wikimedia Foundation. Translations are available.
As many of you know, January 15 is Wikipedia’s 15th Birthday!
People around the world are getting involved in the celebration and have started adding their events on Meta Page. While we are celebrating Wikipedia's birthday, we hope that all projects and affiliates will be able to utilize this celebration to raise awareness of our community's efforts.
Haven’t started planning? Don’t worry, there’s lots of ways to get involved. Here are some ideas:
- Join/host an event. We already have more than 80, and hope to have many more.
- Talk to local press. In the past 15 years, Wikipedia has accomplished extraordinary things. We’ve made a handy summary of milestones and encourage you to add your own. More resources, including a press release template and resources on working with the media, are also available.
- Design a Wikipedia 15 logo. In place of a single icon for Wikipedia 15, we’re making dozens. Add your own with something fun and representative of your community. Just use the visual guide so they share a common sensibility.
- Share a message on social media. Tell the world what Wikipedia means to you, and add #wikipedia15 to the post. We might re-tweet or share your message!
Everything is linked on the Wikipedia 15 Meta page. You’ll find a set of ten data visualization works that you can show at your events, and a list of all the Wikipedia 15 logos that community members have already designed.
If you have any questions, please contact Zachary McCune or Joe Sutherland.
Thanks and Happy nearly Wikipedia 15!
-The Wikimedia Foundation Communications team
Posted by the MediaWiki message delivery, 18. detsember 2015, kell 22:58 (EET) • Palun aita emakeelde tõlkida • Juhend